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Author Topic: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"  (Read 3160 times)

helidude350

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My situation calls for containment of the shavings. I don't have a working shop environment available to me, and the sparkly shavings that got tracked around caused a lot of grief.
I managed to use a black and decker ( I think) work bench sawhorse clamp portable thingy with my Ez jig and a trash bag with good results. Wasnt as clean with the modulus.
So I have modified 2 Home Depot bucket lids to hold the jigs and catch the shavings.
Will try to post pics.
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2015, 09:45:10 AM »

A shop vac does a terrific job of keeping the chips cleared out and contained. Keeping the chips cleared during the milling process is very important as they are very abrasive when they build up and get in between the endmill and the jig.
I taped a piece of smaller hose (IIRC 1/2"ID) to my shop vac hose so that I could get it into tight places.

The new Modulus HD jig has slots cut in the side plates to make clearing the chips much easier.
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2016, 06:50:08 PM »

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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2016, 06:52:36 PM »

This idea is only for the " milling " router phase. it wont fit in my drill press  ;)
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2016, 07:06:18 PM »

ez jig underside
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2016, 07:07:41 PM »

ez jig in trigger slot mode
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2016, 07:11:33 PM »

Modulus 308 jig

it kinda sags at the buffer end, so I secured it with wire.
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2016, 07:30:22 PM »

the ez jig has to be turned 180 to do the trigger.
the modulus top plate turns, so there is only one set of holes.

I figure to cover any voids with tape.
I am going to try with a trash bag inside, and also try with no trash bag, but a hole in the side of the bucket for my shop vac.
I'm hoping that the chips will evacuate without me poking the vac in the top of lower and jig, and make less mess overall.

If you have a shop area that you can just make a mess, and clean up after, this is probably useless to you.
I don't have that luxury.
So if you are in a situation like me, or an apartment, hotel, or have your wife giving you dirty looks this may help.

I hope to post results the next couple days.
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2016, 07:30:08 AM »

So are you sandwiching the bucket lid between some of the jig templates or cutting a hole for the assembly to pass through and then the top plate just sits on the bucket lid?
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2016, 04:15:45 PM »

both jigs basically hang from the lid through the hole. But they have to have final assembly through the lid.
Nothing is sandwiched between the jig parts. I didn't want to modify the depth gauges or process to keep it simple.
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2016, 11:33:34 PM »

Started on the trigger slot using the modulus 308 jig.
I taped across the top of the whole assy with clear "duck" tape.
I cut out the trigger part of the tape.
Went a few passes without the vacuum. Mess was reduced greatly.
Attached my wimpy shop vac to the bucket, mess is almost zero.
Chips seem to be evacuating the trigger slot as I go.
I stopped about a third the way down.
Will try to finish in the morning.


Side note.... Drilling only one trigger hole has reduced chatter and grabbing. Much easier to control the router.
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2016, 12:09:46 PM »

The bucket method worked really good for me. Virtually no escaped shavings. Most of the shavings evacuated through the trigger slot. The majority wound up in the bottom of the bucket, some sucked into the vacuum , while some remained stuck to the jig and lower.
Vacuumed those off during disassembly of the jig.
Rinsed the remainder of of the lower outside with the garden hose.

I'm hoping this will work well for the ezjig also.
I may need to do the steps out of order with the ezjig so that it has the trigger hole to suck the shavings through. That may involve not drilling the 3/8" holes in the trigger slot location.

If I had a shop environment available I would probably just clamped the jig in place and went for it, not worrying about the mess.

So if you don't have a shop, or live in an apartment , or your mama's house this cheap method may help you.
I didn't time it, but it really doesn't seem to take much longer, and the constant vacuum offsets the stopping to remove shavings.

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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2016, 04:38:22 PM »

Thanks for sharing all of that. I'll have to try it for myself.
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Re: Another method, sorta... Or.... " will we always be bucket heads?"
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2016, 04:27:33 AM »

Hi guys. Sorry Im late to the conversation but its been awhile since I checked in here. I had to work (cut/grind/sand) shells, soapstone, and obsidian in my appt a couple times and it was always a constant fight with waste and debris. Anyway the best setup was a large card board box (2ft x 2ft x 3ft) that was secured between the vice and the desk it was mounted to. I cut lholes for viewport and for my arms with plastic windows stapled/glued inside and those big yellow rubber cleaning gloves secured to box from outside for my arms. I also cut holes for power cord and shopvac tube. The only thing I forgot was light (duh...right?) but anyway I was just thinking that I need to build another one. It doesn't matter if you are working in a shop or in your own industrial yard, messes always need o be managed.
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