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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: June 06, 2017, 04:03:05 PM »

I tried that and it did not work. The 1/4" end mill was biting into the guide plate bearing on the jig. I was attempting to use the 1/4" end mill for the bulk of removal and then the 5/16" end mill to clean up the sides. I may try again because, theoretically, that should work.

So you used just the two pilot holes and tried to remove the bulk of the FC pocket with the 1/4" std end mill?   

Chatter City ?? 

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 28, 2017, 11:21:06 AM »
You'd be 1/8" too small.  You could sand down the inside, you would need the exact dimensions.  The 1/4" mill will fit fine in the router adapter because the bearing is 1/4".  But...easiest/best thing to do is shell out for the 5/16" 5D mill. 

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 27, 2017, 08:51:43 AM »
Is that the reason for steel? So you don't wear out the guide holes?

Yes and in my case I'm using a hand held so the steel sides are important.
I wish they had replaceable inserts but  if the price of replacement sides
is reasonable it wouldn't matter.

Yes, I did order their end mill with the jig. They pretty much have you in that regard.

There is nothing from stopping anyone from using a standard 1/4" carbide end mill if you
already have one but I'll say again that the 5D 5/16" end mill really performs.

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 25, 2017, 07:10:24 AM »
Did you get their 5/16" end mill with the jig?

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 23, 2017, 07:46:09 AM »
If i'm understanding your idea......
 
put the jig in the vise
hang the bucket with the shop vac hole from the vise
put a trash bag around the whole assembly
cut a hole through the bag for the vac hose and tape around it to the bucket
tape the bag opening to the jig top plate
create shavings
enjoy !

Sort of....not sure about using a trash bag.  Whatever I do first off it will be simple and I'll mod it
as I go depending on the results.  I'm thinking that my almost empty Kirkland plastic laundry
detergent bucket will work just fine.



I built a jig to hold the jig for the pf940 this weekend using a router instead of the drill press as a mill.

Very interesting...I'd like to see this.  Post a picture if you have a chance. 

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 20, 2017, 06:55:03 PM »
I don't have the 5d jig, but from the pics it has a wide top and it could probably just drop in without any additional structural engineering.

What I was thinking of doing is just using the bottom of the bucket with my work bench/vise.  That would allow the workbench/vise to secure the jig and the bucket bottom underneath to collect the chips.  Just need a way to attach it to the bottom of the bench.

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 20, 2017, 07:30:21 AM »
I'm thinking of picking one of these up. The 5D setup looks to be really well thought out and put together. Can anyone suggest particular lowers that work well with it?

Theoretically any mill spec lower should work.  However, if you read the reviews on this site one of the jigs (Modulus...?) had problems with one particular lower and the manufacturer of the jig modified the buffer tube threaded piece.  Not sure how you manufacture a component that works with 99% of all lowers but not one brand and the fault is with the jig and not the lower but this should be the exception.  The one I finished above is the American Weapons Components 6061 billeted, which I got for $60.  This is a very good price for a billeted lower (which are more expensive than forged) and it finished up very well.  You can find it here:

http://www.americanweaponscomponents.com/product/80-lower-ar-15-billet-receiver-6061-ano/

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 18, 2017, 07:30:25 PM »
That's a great idea!  I was also thinking that I could build  2x4  I-beams plus additional wood  that would go in the bucket to support the lid and a side opening for the shop vac hose to pull the chips down.  From the pic of my 5D it looks like a lot of them came off the top of the jig.  Will have to seriously look into this.

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80% Lower Deals / Re: EP Armory Polys on sale
« on: May 17, 2017, 08:00:42 PM »
I noticed I did that right after the post.  Sorry....

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 17, 2017, 07:59:27 PM »
I must be looking in the wrong place I couldn't find it.

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80% Lower Deals / EP Armory Polys on sale
« on: May 17, 2017, 07:53:22 AM »
I just checked their web site and eparmory.com has kevlar poly lowers selling for $24.99.  Not sure how long this will last.

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 16, 2017, 12:34:29 PM »
I've been thinking of how to use the shop vac to vacuum up the shavings off the router, but no good method yet that doesn't get in the way.
The Rigid router works well, but the collar is sometimes difficult to remove and I cut my finger on the mill. I'll be more careful next time.
Yes it did shave the anodization off the right side not viewable in the picture.  Next time I finish a lower with  an already finished rear pocket
I'll stop the router in the template after it removes the wall.

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 15, 2017, 08:46:10 PM »
You made a mess.

😐

Yup...Dat's why God created Shop Vac.  Mine is actually a Craftsman....but anyway...never leave home..or.....errrr never finish a lower without one. :P

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: May 15, 2017, 09:54:23 AM »
So I completed a 6061 AI with the 5D Tactical router.  I did not follow their directions completely as I finished the oval trigger slot all the way down before starting on the FC pocket.  I also used only 1 pilot hole instead of two and it seemed to work fine.  I must admit that I was a little apprehensive at first because of all the milling involved with this jig.  Most router based jigs have you remove as much material as possible with a drill and mill the rest.  The 5D has you drill just two holes, i opted for just the trigger pilot and I must say it worked very well.   Before purchasing this jig I read their website and spoke to their support rep and they told me that their 5/16" mill bit is not a standard bit that is included with most jig tool kits but rather one that 5D engineered.  And of course the website has all these technical specs and information about the mill bit's design which I thought was probably just another sales pitch.  However  after using this jig and the 5/16 mill I was very surprised just how well it chewed through aluminum.  I would say it was smoother through AI than I remember my 1/4" standard was through hard poly. And I love the way the end mill shank does not touch an interior template so there is no wear to the mill shaft and no wear to the Jig.
 

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Main 80% Lower Discussion / Re: 5D Tactical router based Jig
« on: April 03, 2017, 01:46:23 PM »
I've got to say that that track and the endmill not touching the sides is quite a design.  I was as gentle as I could be with mine and I can see the wear on the shaft of the end mill and the router plate wall. So with just about any other jig you might need  a spare plate and end mill.

How many lowers did you finish for this to happen?

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